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New install tactic
This new retrofit upgrade differs from all the other new upgrades here that all use LED`s. Typically the recent upgrades use similar pole heights and LED`s equivalent to the prior HPS lights. It looks to me that this is compensating fewer higher wattage LED`s to several lower wattage lights (HPS) for efficient lighting distribution. New fixtures still unknown, likely Cooper NVN, or AEL Autobahn

Its looking like the OV-15 in the background with the speed limit will end up being removed after too.

It looks like in the middle of the tall light poles are either burn marks, or marks left from something used to tie them down?
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New install tactic

This new retrofit upgrade differs from all the other new upgrades here that all use LED`s. Typically the recent upgrades use similar pole heights and LED`s equivalent to the prior HPS lights. It looks to me that this is compensating fewer higher wattage LED`s to several lower wattage lights (HPS) for efficient lighting distribution. New fixtures still unknown, likely Cooper NVN, or AEL Autobahn

Its looking like the OV-15 in the background with the speed limit will end up being removed after too.

It looks like in the middle of the tall light poles are either burn marks, or marks left from something used to tie them down?

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streetlight98   [Nov 10, 2017 at 10:37 PM]
The brown marks almost look like weld joints? I doubt those poles are one piece. Would be very cumbersome to transport those lol. Talk about ridiculously high poles. The typical pole height here for the electric company is 35ft for tapered or truss poles from the fixture to the ground (so the pole is a little shorter, at like 30-33ft). RIDOT uses 40ft poles for 400W=LEDs and I think 25-30ft poles for 250W= LEDs. Honestly, a mounting height just above the brown marks would be sufficient in my opinion. These poles are just obnoxiously tall. Laughing
Model25FanForever   [Nov 11, 2017 at 03:56 AM]
Yeah I think its a overkill. Looks like an Eyesore lol. Interesting, I didn't actually think about these poles being sectional, It could explain why this pole never got removed but just was made shorter when they moved the OV-15's on it previously. It seems like a lot of work to go through to cut it up but it looks like it could have been done to it, but why go through all that when they can just bring in a brand new pole. They obviously do a good stealthy job at welding them then if thats the case. lol. This interesection which is right after the one in this photo used the standard height poles, as well as all the other ones done recently. Just seems to be this one intersection they are doing it for.

I could see these being used on a Major Road since most of the major roads use this height anyways. At 3 places in this city does this road use this height of poles, and they are all at Major road intersections.
m@   [Nov 12, 2017 at 05:09 AM]
Good shot to get. I see a green light is out!
That poor house next to these blaster poles.
These high poles always come to the site in one piece. I often see this weld in the middle of many poles even shorter ones, and can't figure out why.
Model25FanForever   [Nov 12, 2017 at 03:10 PM]
Yeah, Its not actually burned out, just the timing of the shot was just right lol!
I wonder if they weld them there to strengthen the pole
streetlight98   [Nov 12, 2017 at 11:38 PM]
They do make sectional poles. Most davit style poles are sectional and the top piece is slightly wider and fits over the top. They often put a slightly narrower tennon on top of the pole so the top section can be the same size. With aluminum davit poles they just have two bolts that go through the pole in an X shape but for a two-piece pole, a weld is probably necessary for structural purposes.

Interesting about the poles arriving in one piece. Here the davit poles arrive in the two piece (straight pole and curved davit section) but they simple bolt together.

Structural support is a good possibility. If the poles have a brand on them we could call up and ask lol.
m@   [Nov 13, 2017 at 06:54 AM]
If you look close, you can see the old poles are 2 pieces, the top piece looks smaller and slid indside the bottom piece, and welded.
I just got the idea that these high poles are two small poles welded together?! See in the far side of this image how a signal-only pole is about half the size. I often see the signal-only height poles in two variants - thick and thin, so maybe one of each slot together to make a high one. Maybe it's easier in the production proocess.
streetlight98   [Nov 13, 2017 at 10:08 PM]
It sounds like you're probably right. Would be pretty hard to manufacture a single piece pole that size. Shocked Nice thing about steel is that it welds very easily and securely. Not saying aluminum welds are "bad" or "unsafe" but I don't trust aluminum welds nearly as much, especially serving a key structural purpose like this.
m@   [Dec 05, 2017 at 05:49 AM]
Update: now sporting coop NVN's in 4 panel. The most square shaped of their line.

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