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CGE F40 Turret Industrial
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Almost missed this bad boy at the Restore today. It was sitting up on a shelf and I only noticed it because of the starter sticking out. 

The fixture didn't come with lamps, so I stuck in a pair of Durotest F40T10s for the pics. When I install this light, I'll put the Sylvania CWP T12s in. 

Starters are a mix of newer replacements  so I might go out and buy a pair of matching metal cased starters. Ballast is fairly old GE tulamp ballast. Pretty big one too, it's the same length as a F40 RS ballast but it has the same cross section as a HO ballast. 

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CGE F40 Turret Industrial

Full sized pic

Almost missed this bad boy at the Restore today. It was sitting up on a shelf and I only noticed it because of the starter sticking out.

The fixture didn't come with lamps, so I stuck in a pair of Durotest F40T10s for the pics. When I install this light, I'll put the Sylvania CWP T12s in.

Starters are a mix of newer replacements so I might go out and buy a pair of matching metal cased starters. Ballast is fairly old GE tulamp ballast. Pretty big one too, it's the same length as a F40 RS ballast but it has the same cross section as a HO ballast.

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Album name:joe_347V / Lighting Fixtures
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Company and Date Manufactured:Canadian General Electric, January 1951
Model Number:No. 4777
Wattage:99w
Lamp Type:2x F40T12
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Date added:Jun 15, 2014
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streetlight98   [Jun 15, 2014 at 02:40 AM]
Beautiful! Shocked Very Happy Looks like maybe a late 40-50's ballast but it's just a guess. I like that black reveal strip on the reflector. Cool You must've been jumping for joy when you realized what this was. Very Happy

I didn't know GE was into fluorescent fixtures (or maybe only CGE was?). I thought they only made ballasts and lamps. Well I didn't know Sylvania made their own fixtures either but they did... Laughing
lite_lover   [Jun 15, 2014 at 02:57 AM]
Nice find Joe!! Good thing you noticed it sitting up on the shelf. Cool
joe_347V   [Jun 15, 2014 at 05:10 AM]
Thanks! Yeah, I should carefully pull the ballast to check for any date codes underneath. It's not early 40s since they had ballasts with external compensators back then. Anyway it's in my 1949 CGE catalogue (skip to page 84). It cost $24.50 back in the day which adjusted for inflation is around $250. :O

Yeah, I was pretty shocked to see a preheat turret just lying around on the shelf. The reflector is pretty sturdy porcelain enamel and it held up pretty well over the years.

Ahh, I know CGE had a pretty wide selection of fluorescent fixtures back in the day. I know that Westy and Sylvania made their own fixtures too. Since almost every component on the light is made by GE. I suppose I should replace the Sylvanias with a pair of GEs lol. Maybe even a pair of vintage GE watch dog starters.
joe_347V   [Jun 15, 2014 at 11:26 PM]
Update: Date code on the ballast appears to be "NH".
streetlight98   [Jun 16, 2014 at 03:26 AM]
Ahh made in January. The year looks like 1951. Very Happy wow, 250 bucks?! i think a Form 400 or the like was closer to 75-100 bucks so that's a lot of money! and that's just a shell too! no ballast!
joe_347V   [Jun 16, 2014 at 03:32 AM]
Ahh thanks xD. I wonder if I should get some more vintage lamps for it lol. Currently I have brand new pair of Sylvania CWP lamps in it but it seems they look too modern for the light. The only matching pair of vintage lamps I have are some Lifeline /WWXs though.
streetlight98   [Jun 16, 2014 at 04:11 AM]
No problem. Glad i can help with one date code system lol. vintage lamps would look cool. I have all modern lamps in my fixtures except for some GTE Sylvania F20/WW lamps since i have a zillion of them and the two '97 Econ-o-watts that do very well in the metalux turret in this warmer weather we've been having. They look greener than my other /CW lamps, almost like a /C merc... My only 50s fluorscent is the '56 GE F14/D which wouldn't fit this lol. My next oldest fluorescents are from the late 60s. For HIDs, my oldest lamp is a late 60s NOS Sylvania 400W /C merc.
joe_347V   [Jun 16, 2014 at 08:07 PM]
Ahh I guess modern full wattage lamps are ok then (no way am I letting 34w lamps near this thing) and plus I think finding some 50s F40s would probably be impossible. Still I think this light would look pretty good with a pair of blackenders or some main lighters.
streetlight98   [Jun 16, 2014 at 08:48 PM]
You could always make your own blackenders. I did that on all my Altos. Grabbed a can of gloss enamel black paint and a small brush and no more green ends. Smile It doesn't solve the nont-enough-mercury issue though lol.
joe_347V   [Jun 17, 2014 at 12:56 AM]
Yeah, I suppose I could paint the endcaps. If I do I think I'm gonna paint the Sylvanias since they're full wattage and full mercury. I think next time I'm at Restore I'll grab a pair of Westys if I see them.
streetlight98   [Jun 17, 2014 at 01:07 AM]
Yeah make sure you don't use Sharpie. I did that with a pair of Sylvania CWP lamps and the sharpie wore off on the white sockets. And this was months after i sharpied them too so they were dry. For some reason there haven't been any longer lamps at the ReStore, just small lamps less than 2ft long. Its all dendent on what's donated though so I guess nothing is consistant there. I didn't find my first HID items until the last time I went (the 100W HPS lamp and the open cap). Still waiting for an HIs fixture though lol.
joe_347V   [Jun 17, 2014 at 01:10 AM]
Ahh, yeah I have a can of model paint that I can use to paint the ends. As for Westy black enders they show up from time to time at Restore. The ones here sell everything under the sun, HID, vintage lamps, loose ballasts, and preheaters lol.
streetlight98   [Jun 17, 2014 at 01:43 AM]
wow nice! the one here has a crapload of old switches and outets. Several milk crates full (remember those old plastic milk crates?). I should dig through them sometime and pick out the "snap!" switches... they're 50 cents a piece.
Model25FanForever   [Jun 17, 2014 at 12:00 PM]
Nice find! Goes to show the CGE was good quality Cool
streetlight98   [Jun 17, 2014 at 04:52 PM]
Is there still a CGE or do they just got by GE everywhere now?
joe_347V   [Jun 17, 2014 at 11:49 PM]
Yeah the Restores here sometimes get a lot of good stuff. At mine, I once saw some push button switches that probably dated back to the 20s. Shocked

Thanks, and yeah CGE made some solid stuff back in the day. I believe the stopped using the CGE name back in the early 90s. I believe they're now known as GE Canada instead.
streetlight98   [Jun 18, 2014 at 02:01 AM]
Ah interesting sounding switches! Ah they still have a separate Canadian division? I wonder if CGE cobraheads beared the CGE logo instead of the meatball logo?
joe_347V   [Jun 18, 2014 at 07:01 AM]
Yeah here's how they looked like. The one I saw was mounted on a 4 gang wall plate though. They still make them too. The ones I found had patent dates from 1912 on them so they must have been old.

I'm not sure about the cobreheads but I know the CGE signals initally used the standard meatball but the 1980s signals had this CGE logo on the back.


I've yet to see anything with this CGE logo though.



Basically the meatball but with CGE inside instead of GE.
A_lights   [Jun 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM]
Very nice fixture! You could get some cut out starters for it on ebay, I see them for a decent price usually
joe_347V   [Jun 18, 2014 at 05:51 PM]
Thanks, I might get some cutout starters for it too.

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