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Eagle Flatback 8" 
Found this nice Eagle Flatback signal yesterday at the same antique mall where I got my Powerlite gumball. It originally came with a green and a amber Crouse Hinds T-3 lenses which was a bit odd. I swapped the amber lens with a Corning red RR signal lens to make it a two colour signal when I was I was cleaning out the light (came with a lot of cereal...yuck). I still have to get a sequencer for it, hopefully one that does the correct two colour sequence (green > green + red > red > green). 

The original bulbs were a 135w in the top and a 60w in the bottom, both Durotest with the interesting BT and A hybrid shape. I put in some 40w GE clear fan bulbs though.

I also replaced the reflector in the top with a glass assembly using parts from a rodded Flatback reflector and replaced the reflector dish in the bottom reflector. The original reflectors had some corrosion on them and some pinholes.  

Here's the controller setup in my Eagle Flatback. It uses a standard three colour controller but it has a relay on the amber output to properly display a red-green overlap during the amber.

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Keywords: Traffic_Lights

Eagle Flatback 8"

Found this nice Eagle Flatback signal yesterday at the same antique mall where I got my Powerlite gumball. It originally came with a green and a amber Crouse Hinds T-3 lenses which was a bit odd. I swapped the amber lens with a Corning red RR signal lens to make it a two colour signal when I was I was cleaning out the light (came with a lot of cereal...yuck). I still have to get a sequencer for it, hopefully one that does the correct two colour sequence (green > green + red > red > green).

The original bulbs were a 135w in the top and a 60w in the bottom, both Durotest with the interesting BT and A hybrid shape. I put in some 40w GE clear fan bulbs though.

I also replaced the reflector in the top with a glass assembly using parts from a rodded Flatback reflector and replaced the reflector dish in the bottom reflector. The original reflectors had some corrosion on them and some pinholes.

Here's the controller setup in my Eagle Flatback. It uses a standard three colour controller but it has a relay on the amber output to properly display a red-green overlap during the amber.


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Album name:joe_347V / My Signal Collection
Keywords:Traffic_Lights
Company and Date Manufactured:Eagle Signal
Model Number:Flatback
Wattage:2 x 40w
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streetlight98   [Feb 18, 2013 at 01:08 AM]
For a second i thought this was a restore find. Shocked nice signal!
joe_347V   [Feb 18, 2013 at 02:07 AM]
Thanks, Eagle flatbacks are a pretty rare type of signal in my area too.
basilicon89   [Feb 18, 2013 at 04:38 PM]
Nice head! Flatbacks are very well built, and normally you don't find them all beat up. Most never lose their original paint either. To get yours to cycle through the G GR R sequence shoot Lights to Go an email...they'll make you a customized sequencer (for an additional cost) with the cycle you want. I don't know the cost, I haven't had Lights to Go stuff in my collection in 10 years.

The original Amber/Green setup leads me to believe these were used in a continous green application. The yellow was there for flashing operation which accounts for the different wattages of bulbs.
joe_347V   [Feb 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM]
Thanks Nick! I agree this is one well built signal, none of the screws were frozen too.

For the sequencer I think I might adapt one of those eBay controllers for a two colour setup. I need to find a 120v double pole relay though.
streetlight98   [Feb 19, 2013 at 01:14 AM]
If you get a three lamp controller and connect the red to red, green to green, and yellow to green (or yellow to red) would that work?
joe_347V   [Feb 19, 2013 at 03:03 AM]
If you just connect the yellow straight to both then it won't work since the power going into the red will back feed the green. Using a double pole relay on the yellow output and feeding the two lights to separate contacts should prevent this while allowing me to use a standard three lamp controller.
M30   [Mar 13, 2013 at 07:47 AM]
I remember two-section (red and green) traffic signals were common to see throughout New York City for a long period of time.

The overlap is well known, but you could use the "dark out" phase as well. The green indication terminated, and both signal indications appeared unlit for a handful of seconds before the red indication appeared illuminated. It was in use in New York City prior to the early 1950s.
joe_347V   [Mar 13, 2013 at 03:24 PM]
Yeah, the dark out is also easier to adapt to a three colour controller since you can just leave the amber lead disconnected while with the overlap a DPDT relay is needed for the indications to show properly.

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