yeah i think i saw some in one of your photos with the OVM's...it's a nice color for signals,i like it better than yellow even if its not quite as visable.
Green signals look good when new, but overtime they fade to a puke green color and "yuck!" I like the color of the 2nd and 4th signal groups, but not the other signal shades.
It does to me because I absolutly HATE light shades of green. (except fluorecent green). Black signals are installed only in the downtown areas around here and none have really been around long enoguh to fade....
McCains won't fade. They'll lose their paint long before it.
I find it funny that the top two sections of the signal on the far left are LFE and are 15 years older than the section on the bottom...which is a McCain....and the McCain's the one shedding paint in sheets.
Its faded yes. Actually, LFE has not produced any signal since 1993. And the production on the aluminum head ended in the 1980s. So its actually 20+ years old. But.........the paints still on it, albeit faded. McCains can't be more than 5 to 8 years old and the paints coming off in clumps.
Nick refers to McCain as "Mexican Made Garbage" could offend some people.
but they are definetly not the best,my area was using them for quite some time and alot are still up don't know how old they are but the paint is rather dull on most of them,flaking on a few and we seem to be using Eagles now,there are some older eagles in the city but that's what shows up in new installations is eagle...Durasigs and Mark 8's,some new pedestrian signals however are still McCain.
Well I noticed McCain seems to be the least liked signal brand among collectors, even on other forums.
McCains are rarely seen in my area, we mostly use Durasigs, LFE polys, Econolite polys, and Fortran polys. Back in the incandescent days Mark IVs, Alum. LFEs, and CGE signals were a common sight.
We even have an old Crouse Hinds Type M 12-12-12-12 and some old Eagle Flatback 12-8-8s here.
The LFE poly 1993 to the present, and the DuraSig are both made by Eagle. Eagle stuff is nicer because Siemens really pulled the company into the 21st century.
The McCains use a low grade aluminum that is cast at their foundry in Mexico and imported. The aluminum corrodes to the point the signals are known to fall right off the cable. (Lawsuit anyone??) The powdercoating is low grade and poor chemical bath to save money. The paint doesnt bond to the metal and flakes off. The cutaway visors are a poor design. The PV signal they stole from 3M's design is awful...and its expensive. Even if it looks OK from the outside...open one up. Good chance its corroded all inside.
The plastic version of the McCain is slightly better but tends to bend back and the fiberglass texture shows through the plastic meaning its not properly finished with a nice gloss shine.
I've handled McCain plastic and aluminum before. Both signals even feel cheaply made
The LED lamps were not made by McCain or 3M. Leotek and GE make them. They are not a consistent product and tend to fail often. The older 3Ms and McCains are not designed for the sharp direct output of LEDs and it affects their programmability. Thats why alot of the old PVs are getting pulled for Intelight or just regular LED signals
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Ontario used to use green signals a long time ago, I kinda like them over yellow in some places.
I find it funny that the top two sections of the signal on the far left are LFE and are 15 years older than the section on the bottom...which is a McCain....and the McCain's the one shedding paint in sheets.
What does that tell ya about the quality.
It's like that with some modern cobraheads too, the old ones still have their paint but the new ones are flaking paint.
but they are definetly not the best,my area was using them for quite some time and alot are still up don't know how old they are but the paint is rather dull on most of them,flaking on a few and we seem to be using Eagles now,there are some older eagles in the city but that's what shows up in new installations is eagle...Durasigs and Mark 8's,some new pedestrian signals however are still McCain.
McCains are rarely seen in my area, we mostly use Durasigs, LFE polys, Econolite polys, and Fortran polys. Back in the incandescent days Mark IVs, Alum. LFEs, and CGE signals were a common sight.
We even have an old Crouse Hinds Type M 12-12-12-12 and some old Eagle Flatback 12-8-8s here.
The McCains use a low grade aluminum that is cast at their foundry in Mexico and imported. The aluminum corrodes to the point the signals are known to fall right off the cable. (Lawsuit anyone??) The powdercoating is low grade and poor chemical bath to save money. The paint doesnt bond to the metal and flakes off. The cutaway visors are a poor design. The PV signal they stole from 3M's design is awful...and its expensive. Even if it looks OK from the outside...open one up. Good chance its corroded all inside.
The plastic version of the McCain is slightly better but tends to bend back and the fiberglass texture shows through the plastic meaning its not properly finished with a nice gloss shine.
I've handled McCain plastic and aluminum before. Both signals even feel cheaply made