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Video of a neon sign EOL in the center of Kiryat Ata
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The malfunctioning neon sign, is the second and the third lines in this lighted text. The first line is a good sign.
I don't know how neon sign behaves in your countries when they reach EOL, but in Israel, they tends to flicker wildly, and they haven't so long life (They are local made).
Rapidstart F96T12 HO ALTOs in Israel, tends also to behave such at EOL, even if these are completely different lamps.
I think most of our neon signs operates at high frequency, because they aren't flickering.
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Video of a neon sign EOL in the center of Kiryat Ata

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The malfunctioning neon sign, is the second and the third lines in this lighted text. The first line is a good sign.
I don't know how neon sign behaves in your countries when they reach EOL, but in Israel, they tends to flicker wildly, and they haven't so long life (They are local made).
Rapidstart F96T12 HO ALTOs in Israel, tends also to behave such at EOL, even if these are completely different lamps.
I think most of our neon signs operates at high frequency, because they aren't flickering.

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Filename:Neon_sign_failure.jpg
Album name:dor123 / Videos
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Company and Date Manufactured:Unknown (Probably Pas Oron), Israel
Model Number:This sign is of the optics Chain store "Optica Halferin"
Lamp Type:Neon hollow cathode lamp (Neon sign)
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Date added:Apr 08, 2011
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rjluna2   [Apr 08, 2011 at 12:31 PM]
I have seen this similar EOL neon sign. I saw your youtube posting at the LG last night. It seems to be no difference between the 50 Hz and 60 Hz for the EOL behavior.

Now, I don't know if this is Neon tube is going bad or the step-up transformer going bad Confused
dor123   [Apr 08, 2011 at 02:42 PM]
I also don't know.
Since most of our local made neon signs, don't flickering, this means that they operating at high frequency, and this means that their NSTs are electronic.
These should have EOL protection.
But i think that the problem is with the neon sign itself, as the only problem that cause flashing of fluorescent lamps in HF gears, is a failure of the electrolytic capacitor (If it exist there), which results with a regular 50/60hz flickering.
Another evidence that they are operates at HF, is that i saw in the past, several neon signs with standing waves in the discharge.
SeanB~1   [Apr 08, 2011 at 07:48 PM]
Flickering is mostly caused by poor contacts, or a dying HV transformer. Another cause is if the glass has been coated by something conductive, like an accumulation of glass cleaner that builds up a slightly conductive film especially in a humid area. Rain has the same effect, but with a magnetic transformer it will stop when the glass dries off, along with the socket ends and insulators.
dor123   [Apr 09, 2011 at 12:25 PM]
I don't know if the NSTs we have on neon signs, are also local made, but since this problem usually appears as a premature failure, you probably right.
SeanB~1   [Apr 09, 2011 at 02:52 PM]
I have 2 neon sign transformers that are new magnetic units, but the signs at work have older transformers that have been in service for close to 20 years, running off a selection of flashers ( that die at around the 5 year mark generally) where the maintainers have only changed one out that burnt off the connection on the insulator recently. They are pretty reliable, but do not like rain, it makes them flicker. Generally I get Claude Neon to clean them and repaint the masking every year, this helps a lot. The panel backlighting is done with 4 foot T8 tubes, and i supply those ( otherwise I would have assorted colour tubes in there depending what is on the maintenance truck) and new starters generally every 2-3 years. Phillips tubes last very well on 24/7/365.

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