Nah I had wanted to use an EcoLux but it was too long to fit in so I had opted for a lightly used Sylvania cool white instead. Both Sylvanias are coincidentally from 2005 (the first number/second digit of the date code is the "5" on both lamps, indicating 2005, but that's all i know about Sylvania lamps) and they were both made in Canada. When I had installed the Sylvania, I replaced the plastic OnGuard starter with an HN starter since I didn't know if it worked or not. Turns out it works fine so i used that OnGuard starter to replace the hubbell NeoStart, which barely works. I had to remove the cap from it to get any action. With the cap the lamps I used just glowed steadily. Without the cap the lamps all start fien but for some reason the ValueBright lamps are really hard to start with that starter. They'll flicker at the ends and you hear the starter pinging like a son-of-a-bitch and then after a minute to a minute and a half the lamp just flashes to life. With any other lamp though, the ends glow for two seconds and the lamp flashed on with no flicker. That's exactly how T17s start. The T17 in my grandpa's basement stays dark when you flick the switch for about 5 seconds then the ends glow for another four-six seconds and you hear a loud "PING" and the lamp comes on. No flicker. Those T17 starters are pretty loud! the ballast itself is very quiet though! Probably because it only runs one lamp...