Fixture Build Quality

[Mike]

So they're bought by the municipality, installed by the contracters, and maintained by the utility co? Wow. The utility co here does everything. that's why RI has no money and wny NGrid has money flying out of their safes.

[joe_347V]

Except for Toronto, all the streetlights there are owned/serviced/installed/maintained by the utility.

MTO lighting is owned by the MTO and serviced by contractors.

[Mike]

i understand now. RIDOT owns the lights and poles, etc, but they're serviced and maintained by either them, contractors, or NGrid. I'm not sure on that one. When I report lights burned out, the ones that have PCs i have to contact NGrid. The newer relay ones and older highmasts are RIDOT thought I think.

[joe_347V]

I don't think MTO has their own bucket trucks anymore.

[Mike]

RIDOT might.....
UPDATE: they do:

[joe_347V]

Interesting.

[Mike]

Funny thing is that I've never seen ONE of these in my 13 years in RI.

[joe_347V]

Did you check the yards?

[Mike]

i have been to the RIDOT warehouse when i was 8, but i was into signs then. They even showed me a pile of streetlights!!!! I believe there was M-250R2, OVM, M-400R2, and OVS, but there may have been more or less. I wish i was into lights when i went there. There were poles in the back (davits to be exact) and probably new lights too, which i took no notice of. i did get a No parking sign and over 2 dozen mini signs as well as learn how they make a sign. it was a very cool sight when I was 8. i wish i could go back for the lights. The place is pretty close too! Not to bike to though. The only way to get there from my house is to go the highway. plus, there's a huge hill that'd be fun to go down on a bike, but you'll drop dead biking up it. here's the RIDOT Maintenance Division, which i visited.

[joe_347V]

Cool, I wonder if they will still recognize you.

[Mike]

They might recognize my mom, but me? Nah. right here is where you can see traffic lights and what appears to be cobraheads.

[joe_347V]

Nice, here's the MTO's yard, you can see some signs lying on the ground.

[Mike]

Anyways, one of the M-250r2s that replaced a 113 last week is cyclign already! there was nothign wrong with the 113 either. The 113 probably has been lighting the origional lamp in it since Narragansett Electric installed it in the 90's.

[joe_347V]

Oh sure like you've ever been on topic after this post.

Yeah. NGrid doesn't use NEMAs here. They're in love with the M-250R2. Sometimes a new M-250R2 just pops up where there was no light before or a M-250R2 replaces a different model that's still working great. Ideally, a company would want all their lights to ne identical, but companies seem to discontinue models so fastly, it's next to impossible.

Ugh, I never really got why utilities replace lumes that still work.

[Mike]

I do get it either. It's not liek the ignitorwas bad (which isn't and excuse to replace it anyways) it was workign fine one night and there was an R2 the next night.